star sail Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 19 minutes ago, purestate said: The most appalling aspect of this statement seems to be that they don’t even understand the point of VAR Mistakes will be made on the field, and subjective calls made in front of the VAR monitor, just as managers will pick the wrong team, goalkeepers concede soft goals and strikers miss from five yards out. Do they not get that’s the whole point of var is that you do get a chance to review and correct / confirm the decision? The striker and goalie in their analogy don’t. They seem to have made the argument that most of us would agree with is that current version of VAR should be scrapped and only reinstated if proper investment and training of officials takes place. There is that word subjective again. You are right, the SFA don't even understand the purpose of their own process. VAR is there to remove subjectivity. It allows referees to make a judgement on the basis of fact and evidence. The referee makes a subjective call in real time. In that regard the analogy holds firm comparing with players and managers. VAR is supposed to remove the subjectivity. Referees now get a benefit of hindsight that no player or manager has the luxury of having. Anyway now that the SFA are in statement writing mode, I would imagine they are putting the finishing touches to the statement condemning the pitch invasion at Ibrox in the Cup and we will be reading that statement in the papers in the morning.. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago How can a decision taken on a clear and obvious error be subjective? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago Andrew Dallas has arrived at an erroneous conclusion that was based on probability and an unclear image. On that basis there is no way he should have called John Beaton over the monitor. In short it wasn't clear or obvious. The latter should have stood his ground, no doubt annoying Celtic fans in the process, given that nothing he saw clearly contradicted his initial decision. No mention either in the official statement of the pitch invasion or the role of Celtic staff in that. Siege mentality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Three question from Wednesday. What was the attendance? It looked less than the Hearts game with some empty seats in the Cooper. People not willing to put up with their bile. I left in disgust when the pen went in. Did the players get to do their traditional walk round? Any word on damaged seats in the away end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Was in fir park las night , didn't look like any damaged seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago See that mob got there 48minute penalty vs hertz the day to make them level at the break feckin mutants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, smiddy said: See that mob got there 48minute penalty vs hertz the day to make them level at the break feckin mutants Aye so they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Who cares, we’ve got a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, smiddy said: See that mob got there 48minute penalty vs hertz the day to make them level at the break feckin mutants Unfortuately It was a Stonewall penalty, no dodgy var decision required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Spiderpig said: Unfortuately It was a Stonewall penalty, no dodgy var decision required. Havent seen it spider but even if it wasnt a stonwsller they wouldv still been given it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Can we just delete this thread and forget it ever happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago On second thoughts perhaps not! The Celtic fans are out of control. Celtic hearts game was still ongoing ie ref had not whistled for end of game and Hearts players and staff assaulted whilst they tried to clear pitch. Failed to do so and then the ref blows up. So was game abanded on safety grounds? Should at least be replayed in an empty stadium. What a mess the SFA have created.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Orinoco said: On second thoughts perhaps not! The Celtic fans are out of control. Celtic hearts game was still ongoing ie ref had not whistled for end of game and Hearts players and staff assaulted whilst they tried to clear pitch. Failed to do so and then the ref blows up. So was game abanded on safety grounds? Should at least be replayed in an empty stadium. What a mess the SFA have created.... The uglies, especially the green ones think that they are untouchable, the SFA are shit scared of upsetting them, so nothing will happen. You are spot on the whole sorry debacle is entirely of the SFA's making by their failure to take serious effective action against the blue or green uglies, its Scotlands ongoing shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Apparently Shankland has a broken nose. This is going to run and run. Utter madness. I dread to think what would have happened had Celtic lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago The game at Fir Park on Wednesday was effectively abandoned as well after those manky scumbags invaded the pitch and endangered the players and fans. And it’ll keep happening until the SFA/SPFL actually punish them, but they won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, sinjy said: Three question from Wednesday. What was the attendance? It looked less than the Hearts game with some empty seats in the Cooper. People not willing to put up with their bile. I left in disgust when the pen went in. Did the players get to do their traditional walk round? Any word on damaged seats in the away end? Just over 12k but not as big as Hearts. They did a short walkaround, but it was very subdued due to what was going on in the corner. Not heard anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, wellfan said: The game at Fir Park on Wednesday was effectively abandoned as well after those manky scumbags invaded the pitch and endangered the players and fans. And it’ll keep happening until the SFA/SPFL actually punish them, but they won’t. A fine as a percentage of their turn over is the only way to deal with situations like this. A 50,OOO fine for a club like ours is massive but to the two arse cheeks would mean nothing. The whole game in Scotland has to be sorted. From refs to VAR . The turmoil at the Scottish Cup game should have been addressed immediately maybe preventing carnage like Wedensday night and today. What a season for us though the passing straight through other teams and general play has been fabulous . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 37 minutes ago Report Share Posted 37 minutes ago This is what happens when you give entitled, arrogant arseholes like the Celtic support an inch. They are out of control and basically doing whatever they like with no comeback. There was no Rangers fans at Fir Park or at Celtic Park today to shift the blame onto for Celtic’s fans behaviour, where Hearts effectively had to take their players off the park BEFORE the end of the game for their safety and straight onto the team coach. That is the second time in a few days that a game has ended with thousands of Celtic fans on the field of play but this time it was worse. Hearts should be all over this and be shouting from the rooftops about how they had to remove their players due to them being accosted or even possibly assaulted by Celtic supporters. I’m sure Derek McInnes will have plenty to say, he ‘gets it’ he knows what Celtic are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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