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Motherwell v Celtic 13/05/2026


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45 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

I feel dirty typing this, but seems that Rangers fans have actually been fairly well-behaved at Fir Park. The stairways mostly clear, no reported damage, no pitch invasions (since the play-off). I'd be in favour of giving Celtic the upper tier only and bill them for loss of revenue from the empty seats. We'll stop billing them and open the lower tier when their fans learn how to behave themselves.

That's my impression as well. We all know the behaviour of some Rangers fans  has been unsavoury  and  menacing in the past, like the  infamous riot at FP in 1978 because they were 2-0 down and looking at a hiding,  and many other violent incidents over the years, including in Manchester after the UEFA Final in 2008.

That  said, the behaviour of a section of Celtic fans seems to have deteriorated the more they have dominated the Scottish game in the last 15 years and the growth of the Green Brigade is a toxic phenomenon which shows  an arrogant sense of entitlement and  sense of impunity which we can see transfers to the club itself with its recent desperate attempts to justify/deny the indefensible after last Wednesday and Saturday.

Unfortunately, we're stuck with them both because  to admit them to the English Premiership would be suicidal for it, even if it were possible.

Until there is a real will shown by  the  police, SG and Scottish football authorities to restore order, fairness and sporting integrity to our game, nothing will change. I wonder  also how many of our "new" supporters will have been put off by these recent events, despite the best efforts of our manager, players and club generally?

 

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5 hours ago, dennyc said:

Given the trouble this season and last I would hope the Club Board are already considering this. No doubt the loss of income upwards of £65k per game is a factor.  Hard to gauge how many of those home fans that avoid Old Firm games would be encouraged to turn up if away numbers were greatly reduced. Wouldn't be enough to offset the loss but then again money should not be the driver here. I wonder if anyone from the  Society has expressed health and safety concerns re Celtic games to our Chief Executive? 

I don't think there is any rule dictating that a Club cannot pick and choose which visiting fans should be limited in number. Hearts and Hibs have limited away tickets for most teams in recent seasons but increased the allocation for matches between the two. So no reason why we could not restrict OF, or even just Celtic, but give others the full stand. 

When we play celtic the lower tier always appears to be overcrowded and folk running from stand to stands a risk too. If anything where to go wrong say a crushing incident or something its our clubs reputation thats at stake and as a club have the responsibility for any compensation if such an issue was to arrise. Id argue its silly not to impliment something

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1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Take out the bottom ten rows or something, cover them in they advertising banners you see elsewhere 

Im all for this.

Its what they do at Parkhead for European games....

We built that stand to milk Celtic & Rangers for revenue.

It would be crazy to throw the baby out with the bath water.

However, we do need to do something, so the above seems a reasonable and manageable compromise.

Would also allow the stewards to focus in the gates without worrying about anyone coming over the wall.

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2 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Take out the bottom ten rows or something, cover them in they advertising banners you see elsewhere 

They would rip them to shreds and and then still charge onto the pitch. if in that bottom tier, there is no way to stop them. Short of risking injury to stewards and police. Any 'soft' attempt to deter them would just be seen as a challenge.

Let's see how many of those that invaded the pitch and caused the game to be stopped early are identified by Celtic and banned from all grounds in Scotland. Not a one is my guess. Celtic themselves are a huge part of the problem. They have ceded all power to their toxic fans. And the decent ones are too scared to speak out.   Good to see Hearts are not backing down and setting the record straight regards the early stoppage and the fact players were assaulted. The SFA silence is even more deafening than it was after Ibrox.

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6 minutes ago, dennyc said:

They would rip them to shreds and and then still charge onto the pitch. if in that bottom tier, there is no way to stop them. Short of risking injury to stewards and police. Any 'soft' attempt to deter them would just be seen as a challenge.

Let's see how many of those that invaded the pitch and caused the game to be stopped early are identified by Celtic and banned from all grounds in Scotland. Not a one is my guess. Celtic themselves are a huge part of the problem. They have ceded all power to their toxic fans. And the decent ones are too scared to speak out.   Good to see Hearts are not backing down and setting the record straight regards the early stoppage and the fact players were assaulted. The SFA silence is even more deafening than it was after Ibrox.

Happy to ban the green brigade from their own ground , but also happy to sell them tickets for away matches. A truly horrible club.

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12 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro

Any guesses where this is headed?

A stern talking to, 20 quid fine suspended for 2 minutes, some hand waving to distract from that VAR decision. 

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Whatever happens there will be minimal if any serious repercussions for Celtic even though their supporters were 100% responsible for both incidents.

You can guarantee that had any of our fans retaliated by also invading the park at the Celtic game then we would be being painted as the aggressors while Celtic’s fans were simply jubilant in celebration, the same as what happened with the Cup tie at Ibrox where Celtic fans invaded the park.

Celtic have too many people in high places for anything major to befall their way in terms of suitable punishment.

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3 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro

Any guesses where this is headed?

The SPFL growing a pair of balls and taking action re pitch invasions and assaults on players? Probably not. Lumping all four together will minimise  the more serious incidents and enable the Authorities to class them all as celebratory rather than violent and intimidatory. "We had a look but nothing to see here."

I expect Hamilton and Stenny to be fined and Celtic to be commended for the enthusiasm and good nature of their fans. I suspect the incidents attracting the interest of our politicians has spurred our masters to 'appear' to be taking matters seriously.

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The fact that they’re even dragging incidents from lower league games into this speaks volumes. They just cannot be seen to be singling out Celtic, even though this is all down to them and their entitled supporters and that all goes back to the absolute chokehold that that club have on the authorities and the media in this country.

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37 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro

Any guesses where this is headed?

A rapid 5 minute "investigation" a shift of any responsibillity onto Motherwell and Hearts, followed by a swift sweep, sweep nothing to see here statement is my guess.

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The wordings of those two rules are vague enough to let Celtic off the hook. In fact, per Rule H36, we could even take the blame as the home team:

"H36 The home club in any official batch must ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, H36.1 good order and security; H36.2 that policies and procedures have been adopted and are implemented to prevent incidents of unacceptable conduct; and H36.3 that any incidents of unacceptable conduct are effectively dealt with, all at its stadium on the occasion of an official match.

"H37 Each Club must ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that: H37.1 its Players, officials, supporters and any person exercising a function for or connected with the club do not engage in unacceptable conduct at a stadium on the occasion of an official match; H37.2 it identifies any of its supporters who engage in unacceptable conduct at an official match; and H37.3 it takes proportionate disciplinary measures in respect of supporters so identified in terms of Rule H37.2."

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It is about time something was done about the behaviour of this bunch of Celtic fans (Green Brigade) or anyone else involved.  The club need to be taking more responsibility but instead of that you hear pathetic comments from the likes of Martin O'Neill more or less making out that what happens is completly acceptable.  Cut their allocation next season I say 

I seen yesterday John Swinney was telling them to behave themselves tomorrow, again that is not going to happen    

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I think we need to scrap this topic. Thoroughly bored of the whole subject.
Nothing will ever get done, it’s as simple as that. Tin pot, spineless administrators. They are worse than the Celtic and Rangers fans.

We now have referees discussing strike action….. good…. They are totally incompetent. Bring in some refs from the semi pro league in England, they can’t be any worse and they won’t have an agenda.

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