dennyc Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 45 minutes ago, mio said: I think we need to scrap this topic. Thoroughly bored of the whole subject. This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required. Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included. As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years. Rant over. For now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago I see the key match incident panel have agreed the penalty was incorrect…. Great, what a difference that will make now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 9 minutes ago, mio said: I see the key match incident panel have agreed the penalty was incorrect…. Great, what a difference that will make now. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/14629/39-kmi-21st-may-matches-12th-13th-16th-17th-may-outcomes.pdf Hearts will be raging, understandably so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 28 minutes ago, dennyc said: This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required. Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included. As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years. Rant over. For now. I agree. The last thing we need is that this is all swept under the carpet in the close season and slaps on the list belatedly issued to Celtic while dragging in others clubs with little justification including Motherwell, Hearts, Championship play-off teams and other diversions/fig-leaves lest Celtic become isolated and their behaviour placed under the microscope. Perhaps naïvely, I used to have some respect for Martin O'Neill but his recent post-match pronouncements suggest to me that he is a feeble hypocrite, afraid to upset the GB neds (although it seems much of the Celtic support actually booed their incursions onto the pitch) and coming out with nonsense like, "What were the supporters supposed to do? Sit in their seats?". Eh, YES! And that applies to Wednesday night at FP, when the whole Celtic bench "celebrated" with the break-in bhoys and behaved without an ounce of class. The wee plaster saint is really getting on my nazzums at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/14629/39-kmi-21st-may-matches-12th-13th-16th-17th-may-outcomes.pdf Hearts will be raging, understandably so. The VAR officials just can’t grasp that whole “clear and obvious error” before sticking their noses in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago I’d love to hear the Audio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago One member of the panel actually agreed with the penalty division. Who'd have thought it? Its just a talking shop anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago Penalty ruled incorrect. Doesnt help us or hearts but at least we can hold heads high. Celtic getting investigated for pitch invasions is good to read. Given we were on a warning about pyro & we had them going off all second half, we need to just take the punishment on the chin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 9 hours ago, dennyc said: This is what the SPFL and SFA want. The exact opposite is what is required. Fans, Clubs and Politicians refusing to ignore what everybody in the Country witnesses is exactly the ultimatum the Authorities need. VAR and Referee incompetence is one aspect, but the ongoing vile behaviour of those Celtic fans cannot be allowed to be swept under the carpet and lumped in with minor infractions of other Clubs' fans. Sure we will likely be held to Account for the pyro stuff. Fair enough. ...... but that is nothing compared to the Celtic fans behaviour at Celtic Park, Ibrox and Fir Park. Possibly elsewhere as well but Clubs and Media are too intimidated to speak out. Well said Hearts and McInnes for addressing the garbage that O'Neill is spouting. The narrative coming out of Celtic Park is disgusting although it does fit well with their 'Victims' approach. It's time other Clubs spoke up rather than keeping quiet in case Celtic refuse to stump up for the damage caused by their moronic fans. Motherwell included. As a minimum, the SFA should be making them play in front of some empty Stands at Celtic Park and also limiting their numbers at away grounds, with compensation being paid to those Clubs that suffer reduced away fan ticket sales. In exactly the same way we had to recompense Dundee last season. What's good for the goose etc etc etc. Strange how when UEFA threatened such action, the Green Brigade were immediately banned from European games. As soon as Celtic were pumped out the ban was lifted although in fairness Celtic did introduce another ban when Board Members and their families were threatened. That is until they needed them back to give them an edge in the biggest League Title challenge they have faced in years. Rant over. For now. Easy solution - when we play the Bigot Bros at FP, put a premium on their ticket prices, say £50 to help pay for any damages that they cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, El Grew said: Easy solution - when we play the Bigot Bros at FP, put a premium on their ticket prices, say £50 to help pay for any damages that they cause. Except we are not allowed to do that but maybe that’s your point? Change the rules to allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretband Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago The penalty was awarded with 20 seconds or so to play. So if our fans had invaded the park just before that to celebrate the draw… the ref don’t get chance to blow for time Ip and the game gets called… that pen never gets awarded….Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 20 Seconds left to play that we never got a chance to play. It went to VAR so we should have had a chance to play those 20 seconds. easy way out just to say he blew for full time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Well, that’s the final Done. Hibs will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 32 minutes ago Report Share Posted 32 minutes ago 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: 20 Seconds left to play that we never got a chance to play. It went to VAR so we should have had a chance to play those 20 seconds. easy way out just to say he blew for full time. If the match is approaching full time and there is a penalty awarded or Var check for a penalty the game time is extended until that process is complete ie Var check over or penalty taken and the ball stops moving ie hitting the net or crossbar, crowd etc at that moment if its over the alloted added time if any the game is over. So as much ad it pains me to say, Beaton actually got that part correct, as the game was over when the ball hit the net so before the pitch invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 14 minutes ago Report Share Posted 14 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: If the match is approaching full time and there is a penalty awarded or Var check for a penalty the game time is extended until that process is complete ie Var check over or penalty taken and the ball stops moving ie hitting the net or crossbar, crowd etc at that moment if its over the alloted added time if any the game is over. So as much ad it pains me to say, Beaton actually got that part correct, as the game was over when the ball hit the net so before the pitch invasion. Yes, you’re probably right. In as much that when Beaton blows the whistle for Celtic player to take the kick, that restarts the game after VAR stoppage and they don’t stop the clock once the player scores so the 20 seconds times out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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