Our New Manager

[wellsince75]

Just glad it's sorted - A Jens sized gap isn't easy to fill. 

Think it was @grizzlyg who got pelters for referencing Jens as a legend but I can't honestly remember a better manager to have come through our doors in donkeys years. 

The club are sticking to the plan, may or may not have been the first choice but equally if someone told me we're about to bring in the manager from Rosenborg who wants to play attractive football and had a 45%+ win rate I'd have been pretty chuffed. 

Being young no doubt means he's made mistakes and will make more but full credit to everyone at the club for how they've managed the process. 

Be good to get some early momentum to keep the progression on track. 

 

[bobbybingo]

12 minutes ago, weeyin said:

I'd just add that most successful teams these days play the JBA style, so they don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Very true, and thankfully so.

I can say that now, having seen our wee club is still capable of playing decent football, after all.

[wellsince75]

10 minutes ago, wellfan said:

We need to believe that Johansson can simply pick up where JBA left off. And it shouldn’t be too difficult, given that the entire football department remains unchanged apart from JBA.

The comings and goings of players may prove to be critical here .  Slattery gone, Maswanhise most certainly, Just likely.   

Hopefully what comes in can match or improve us further. 

I get your broader point though - continuation of style of play etc. 

[Modernist]

I'm optimistic about his appointment.

The continuation of the data led approach of appointing the past two managers and the style of fitba we're now playing seems to be working.

Fair play to the high heid yins in the club at the moment.

Seem to be switched on.

 

 

[El Grew]

1 hour ago, MJC said:

Which would be the club I should be supporting going by that post then? Hearts? Aberdeen? Kilmarnock? Or maybe St.Johnstone? 
 

Or are you just going down the usual lazy route of “anyone who says anything remotely connected with Rangers must be a Rangers fan”???

I think Derek McInnes is a good manager. That’s all.

Artichoke, Cholmondeley, Pedigree, CHUM.

I think Derek McInnes is a good manager.

Given that McInnes is the common denominator and you appear to have a fixation on him, take your pick, but since he’s now decided to hitch his wagon to the Castle Greyskull Orcs then maybe, them. However if you really are a dosser start behaving like one and stop posting drivel.

[grizzlyg]

27 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

Just glad it's sorted - A Jens sized gap isn't easy to fill. 

Think it was @grizzlyg who got pelters for referencing Jens as a legend but I can't honestly remember a better manager to have come through our doors in donkeys years. 

The club are sticking to the plan, may or may not have been the first choice but equally if someone told me we're about to bring in the manager from Rosenborg who wants to play attractive football and had a 45%+ win rate I'd have been pretty chuffed. 

Being young no doubt means he's made mistakes and will make more but full credit to everyone at the club for how they've managed the process. 

Be good to get some early momentum to keep the progression on track. 

 

Yup was moi....the word legend caused so much controversy but still behind the most controversial word I have used on this forum.............Joke! 🤪🤪

[Stuwell2]

For a bit of context AJ’s points per game at Rosenborg was 1.67, JBA’s with us was 1.74.

AJ’s includes the poor run of form that led to his departure so possibly it was closer to or maybe better than JBA’s before that. He also took Rosenborg to the playoff round of the conference league. 

 

[wellfan]

10 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

The comings and goings of players may prove to be critical here .  Slattery gone, Maswanhise most certainly, Just likely.   

Hopefully what comes in can match or improve us further. 

I get your broader point though - continuation of style of play etc. 

We now have a Head of Football, and it’s clear there’s a player recruitment and development strategy in place regardless of who the manager is. Even so, it’s still a massive task for Johansson, not only to fill JBA’s shoes but also to deal with the loss of Slattery and, likely, others.

[MJC]

10 minutes ago, El Grew said:

Given that McInnes is the common denominator and you appear to have a fixation on him, take your pick, but since he’s now decided to hitch his wagon to the Castle Greyskull Orcs then maybe, them. However if you really are a dosser start behaving like one and stop posting drivel.

Oh right. 
 

I’ll say again, I just think Derek McInnes is a good manager. That’s it.

You got anymore anecdotes about Sir George Graham or anyone else who was involved with the SFA that was favouring Rangers 60 years ago and how that’s somehow relevant to what happens in the modern game?

No? Okay, let’s move on.

 

[El Grew]

There always seems to have been a mindset in British football that if somebody hasn’t played football or played at a high level, he won’t be any good as a manager - the show us your medals brigade. Well British football has been plagued for too long by ex-players who played at a high level and/or won medals but couldn’t run a bath. So let’s not condemn this guy before he’s started.

[El Grew]

7 minutes ago, MJC said:

Oh right. 
 

I’ll say again, I just think Derek McInnes is a good manager. That’s it.

You got anymore anecdotes about Sir George Graham or anyone else who was involved with the SFA that was favouring Rangers 60 years ago and how that’s somehow relevant to what happens in the modern game?

No? Okay, let’s move on.

 

I wish you would!

[MJC]

2 minutes ago, El Grew said:

I wish you would!

I’m going nowhere.

I’m Motherwell til I die as the song goes. 😊 

[SteelmaninOZ]

 

[wellfan]

7 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

 

Summary: doesn't know JBA personally and won't rip up the current playbook.

[postiejim]

Welcome to Motherwell Alfred. 

[FirParkCornerExile]

6 hours ago, MJC said:

That is approach is fine as long as it works out and there may well come a time sooner or later where we need to get back to basics and hire someone with a better knowledge of the league we play in. Rangers are doing just this by hiring Del after a string of foreign or project managers with little to no knowledge of the Scottish game.

Robinson knows league nearly got St Mirren relegated. Kettlewell knows league nearly got Killie relegated. Jim Goodwin knows league inside out & DU were pish. Id rather we tried something different than the Scottish "Merry Go Round " fuckers who change club every couple of years and achieve fuck all. 

[Spiderpig]

15 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Robinson knows league nearly got St Mirren relegated. Kettlewell knows league nearly got Killie relegated. Jim Goodwin knows league inside out & DU were pish. Id rather we tried something different than the Scottish "Merry Go Round " fuckers who change club every couple of years and achieve fuck all. 

Spot on,well said

[Andy H]

Ok Manager is in, when is the first signing

[Ya Bezzer!]

46 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Robinson knows league nearly got St Mirren relegated. Kettlewell knows league nearly got Killie relegated. Jim Goodwin knows league inside out & DU were pish. Id rather we tried something different than the Scottish "Merry Go Round " fuckers who change club every couple of years and achieve fuck all. 

I'm not especially a fan of either Robinson or Goodwin but to be fair one won a major trophy and the other got Top 6 and European football after a promotion.

If Johansson achieves a trophy, Top 6 or European football he'll have done a good job.

We can all blether about the new appointment but ultimately the proof will be in the pudding.

[FirParkCornerExile]

8 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

I'm not especially a fan of either Robinson or Goodwin but to be fair one won a major trophy and the other got Top 6 and European football after a promotion.

If Johansson achieves a trophy, Top 6 or European football he'll have done a good job.

We can all blether about the new appointment but ultimately the proof will be in the pudding.

Im well aware of that but the inference in the original post was be better at some time to be looking at managers who know the league and as my post says knowing the laeague means fuck all . Its the ability of the manager and you dont need to know the league to be a success.

I would still rather go for guys who try to continue the journey we started than watch the usual unimaginative pish generally served up by the Largs mafia. Sure Robinson won a cup but I wouldnt like to watch the dross St Mirren fans watched this season and you dont need to be good to win a cup as both St Mirren and Aberdeen have proved.  

[Onthefringes]

7 hours ago, MJC said:

That is approach is fine as long as it works out and there may well come a time sooner or later where we need to get back to basics and hire someone with a better knowledge of the league we play in. Rangers are doing just this by hiring Del after a string of foreign or project managers with little to no knowledge of the Scottish game.

Quite the take.

It has very little to do with knowing the league Rangers have gone for. It’s the fanbase demand for a Rangers man’ much the same as the Shettlestons demanding a ‘Sellick man’ backing themselves into their respective corners. Football has evolved - they won’t and does little for the co-efficient.

[MelvinBragg]

8 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

I'm not especially a fan of either Robinson or Goodwin but to be fair one won a major trophy and the other got Top 6 and European football after a promotion.

I'll reiterate what I said in relation to McInnes. If it means watching Goodwin or Robinson's brand of football, I'll do without European football or a trophy (I say that as someone who enjoyed Robinson's team when he was here, maybe I've changed). I want to actually enjoy watching Motherwell. Anything else is a bonus.. 

[mio]

10 minutes ago, Onthefringes said:

Quite the take.

It has very little to do with knowing the league Rangers have gone for. It’s the fanbase demand for a Rangers man’ much the same as the Shettlestons demanding a ‘Sellick man’ backing themselves into their respective corners. Football has evolved - they won’t and does little for the co-efficient.

It’ll be interesting seeing how our new manager does with regards the conference game, he mentioned that straight away and you do find foreign coaches are desperate to do well and try themselves out in this arena. 
both Rangers and Celtic as you mentioned aren’t evolving. They are fixated on beating one another and if any team in the league has the audacity to challenge them in any way, they try and get their players/manager on the cheap and attempt to unsettle them…. Helped by the media.

i have no doubt “Del” will breenge his way through the league and win games as will “papa Martin” but I know both will fail miserably in Europe with their Jurassic style approach.