St Johnstone v Motherwell 28/10/2026

[Obi-Two]

6 minutes ago, ppower said:

The manager hasn't a clue. He lost us the game tonight. Instead of continuing to press for a 3rd. He decided to flood the team with defenders. Not one of them can actually fucking defend. As for bringing SOD on again. That alone should see his arse out the door. How long are people going to defend this fraudster. That fiasco at the end finished him for me.

We're back to playing with fear. We have severely regressed and lost SIX GAMES in a row. Thats unsustainable and we don't look like we'll stop this run without a big change. Sorry Alfred you've had your chance at its just not working.

[MJC]

We undoubtedly have played better against Killie, Hearts and now tonight but we have ONE solitary point to show for it. That is the kind of stat that gets struggling teams relegated.

[wunderwell]

3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Wonder if Robinson and mccann are getting as much stick tonight than AJ.

Saturday is massive now, even i can realise that.  

I've noticed you doing this parallel chat a few times - it's a reference to how fickle scots club are at chasing their managers. 

The in-game management from our manager lost us the game tonight. I think you should focus on that, and not what every other teams forums are shouting about.

[grizzlyg]

7 minutes ago, wunderwell said:

AJ can jog on as well!

Happy exercise Grizzly!

Keeps my steps count up 🤣

[mio]

2 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

He's running out of credits with me. His changes cost us that tonight. 

I have to admit I’m the same boat. I do see some positives and that performance tonight to a point was good. But defensively we are so poor, it doesn’t need to be an art form, they just have to be determined and tuned in to attack and win the ball when it’s crossed into the box, get your body in and block people. It’s just concentration and they turned off at the most important part of the game tonight….utterly infuriating 

[grizzlyg]

1 minute ago, wunderwell said:

I've noticed you doing this parallel chat a few times - it's a reference to how fickle scots club are chasing their managers. 

The in-game management from our manager lost us the game tonight. I think you should focus on that, and not what every other teams forums are shouting about.

I didnt see game so honestly cant assess how game went.  I just dont think we are stage yet to sack him but fully appreciate i seem to be in minority now 

[wellup83]

2 minutes ago, mio said:

I have to admit I’m the same boat. I do see some positives and that performance tonight to a point was good. But defensively we are so poor, it doesn’t need to be an art form, they just have to be determined and tuned in to attack and win the ball when it’s crossed into the box, get your body in and block people. It’s just concentration and they turned off at the most important part of the game tonight….utterly infuriating 

This is the problem. They're not determined. There's no warriors in there that are going to go in 100% and risk being hurt. Far too soft and not clever positionally. I'll reiterate, we need Mcginn back.

[bobbybingo]

Just now, Prestwickwell said:

Ur speculating he gets sent off…..

what’s not speculation is we’ve chucked that game away 

I'm no speculating he gets sent off, I'm pointing out it wasn't just because he'd been booked. And yeah, we chucked 2 points away, points we fully deserved.

No team can press constantly, so we were always going to be under pressure from long balls or crosses at the end. The players on the park need to take responsibilty for defending properly when that happens.

[Prestwickwell]

1 minute ago, bobbybingo said:

I'm no speculating he gets sent off, I'm pointing out it wasn't just because he'd been booked. And yeah, we chucked 2 points away, points we fully deserved.

No team can press constantly, so we were always going to be under pressure from long balls or crosses at the end. The players on the park need to take responsibilty for defending properly when that happens.

So what is the managers philosophy 

your saying we can’t keep up the pressing 

why on earth can’t we keep the ball against st Johnstone & see the game out 😂

( the answer coz he’s not got a clue )

[El Grew]

We’ve played every team in the league with a record of:   
P11 W2 D3 L6 GF13 GA20 GD-7

It’s not hard to see where the problems lie - scoring just over 1 goal per game but conceding nearly 2.

Our record against the sides in the bottom 6 is piss poor: P5 W1 D1 L4 GF9 GA13 GD-4.
All 5 of these games have been away from home and against clubs we are quite capable of beating.

If we lose to St Mirren at home on Saturday then the fans could turn against the manager.

[SteelmaninOZ]

The gaffer said 

 

[Bart Verheul]

12 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

Again when has he been sent off?

said as soon as he got subbed it was a ridiculous decision ( it’s not a after game analysis )

we should have put 4 by them when we went 2-1 up

sometimes u just have to accept that people see things differently, how anybody thinks this boy will work is beyond me 😂

Not really arguing with you as it was a decision that turned the game but I can see why he's done it.

If and fair enough its a big IF but if Said does get sent off and we go down to 10men and lose or draw he's getting the blame for not taking him off and then Said is out for the St.Mirren game.

Probably more forgiveable if it was one of his only bad decision during games but he's shown that his in game management is nowhere near the level of JBA.

I'll give him Saturday and if we dont win he has to go

[claretband]

I’m not getting the whole powderkeg Said bit. You can’t just pull a player for that. Although if their second had skimmed the bar and gone over then none of this would be getting discussed.


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[Prestwickwell]

1 minute ago, Bart Verheul said:

Not really arguing with you as it was a decision that turned the game but I can see why he's done it.

If and fair enough its a big IF but if Said does get sent off and we go down to 10men and lose or draw he's getting the blame for not taking him off and then Said is out for the St.Mirren game.

Probably more forgiveable if it was one of his only bad decision during games but he's shown that his in game management is nowhere near the level of JBA.

I'll give him Saturday and if we dont win he has to go

Honestly don’t think he gets the blame if said gets sent off 

U don’t take him off in a must win when your 2-1 up…..u just tell him not to get sent off 

If there’s previous evidence to suggest he’s liable to go then maybe, such a bad decision as u say amongst others 

[stv]

Who was it that was in front of their goal scorer and couldn't be arsed to jump to clear it.

[stv]

1 minute ago, Prestwickwell said:

Honestly don’t think he gets the blame if said gets sent off 

U don’t take him off in a must win when your 2-1 up…..u just tell him not to get sent off 

If there’s previous evidence to suggest he’s liable to go then maybe, such a bad decision as u say amongst others 

Manager overthinking things again by the looks of it.

[Mintymac]

We can discuss tactics ,manager decisions all night long . That’s a separate issue 

The back line cost us the game tonight  . 
Cross   not closed down and nobody wanting to win the header . 
It’s terrible defending . 
Go and close down the cross and  win the header . 
Basic defending any day of the week at any level of football you play at . 
Three points thrown away . 




 

[Kmcalpin]

25 minutes ago, wunderwell said:

The in-game management from our manager lost us the game tonight.

This. A very costly error of judgement.

[mfc]

That's on the manager tonight,trying to see the game out against a shite team and it backfired,the defence is absolutely pitiful,that has to be the worst group we have assembled for a while. 

[Prestwickwell]

2 minutes ago, Mintymac said:

We can discuss tactics ,manager decisions all night long . That’s a separate issue 

The back line cost us the game tonight  . 
Cross   not closed down and nobody wanting to win the header . 
It’s terrible defending . 
Go and close down the cross and  win the header . 
Basic defending any day of the week at any level of football you play at . 
Three points thrown away . 




 

Is it just that though?

we had a corner a minute before it in the corner & couldn’t manage that situation

we then then give them a free cross into the box 

[Orinoco]

From being ahead we were passive and our in game management was practically non existent.

Look at the last few minutes, so many opportunities to run and keep ball in corner. Useless shots or needless fouls just gives the ball back to your opponent.

Sure manager can and should be blamed, but to many of our players are not committed and are not prepared to throw their bodies in line of shots or run through a brick wall for the manager or their team mates. Compare our current defending to last seasons defending. Wheres the hunger and determination to win? Sure its nice to play pretty football but you need to battle to be a winner. We seem to have to many losers in the squad.

So many things lacking in this team. Leadership, unity, hunger, drive and perhaps intelligence. 

Going to be some job fixing the problems.

[grizzlyg]

AJ Just looks so fed up now, sad to see

[Bart Verheul]

7 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

Honestly don’t think he gets the blame if said gets sent off 

U don’t take him off in a must win when your 2-1 up…..u just tell him not to get sent off 

If there’s previous evidence to suggest he’s liable to go then maybe, such a bad decision as u say amongst others 

I dont think he takes him off if we haven't been on such a bad run but because he's under pressure he's understandably overthinking things and for what its worth he would definitely be getting the blame if Said was sent off because its football and we always need someone to blame.

I think for me tonight I've hit that really dangerous space where apathy has set in and I actually didnt even get angry when that equaliser went in because you could see it coming from about the 65th minute and every change we made seemed to make us worse.

Again a bit of sympathy for Alf because he didnt want to bring SOD on he wanted to bring on Thor for Palmer-Houlden who had knocked his pan in but Girdwood-Reich was injured.

Even though I'm sympathetic and can understand why he made those decisions, it doesnt mean I think they were right and unfortunately I think its time to go and even if we manage to beat St.Mirren on Saturday its Dundee Utd then Rangers next so that'll be at best 1 win in 10 which no manager can survive

[Prestwickwell]

1 minute ago, Bart Verheul said:

I dont think he takes him off if we haven't been on such a bad run but because he's under pressure he's understandably overthinking things and for what its worth he would definitely be getting the blame if Said was sent off because its football and we always need someone to blame.

I think for me tonight I've hit that really dangerous space where apathy has set in and I actually didnt even get angry when that equaliser went in because you could see it coming from about the 65th minute and every change we made seemed to make us worse.

Again a bit of sympathy for Alf because he didnt want to bring SOD on he wanted to bring on Thor for Palmer-Houlden who had knocked his pan in but Girdwood-Reich was injured.

Even though I'm sympathetic and can understand why he made those decisions, it doesnt mean I think they were right and unfortunately I think its time to go and even if we manage to beat St.Mirren on Saturday its Dundee Utd then Rangers next so that'll be at best 1 win in 10 which no manager can survive

Think uv nailed it

equaliser was coming from the 65th minute…..right after we took said off 

[stv]

Just now, grizzlyg said:

AJ Just looks so fed up now, sad to see

No wonder he's bloody fed up, we went from dominating the game to chucking it away. You can be sure he knows his rotten tactics badly coached defence and subs in last 20mins are to blame.