Orinoco Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Drastic times perhaps mean drastic actions. Setup a league structure without the old firm! With their greed and bigotry, they've destroyed the game in Scotland. This is perhaps the motion the fans of teams outwith the old firm should push for. 1st Division clubs survive and seem to serve up a reasonable level of football, without the additional monies from sky and espn. Our clubs need to stop playing keeping up with the English. Never going to happen. Accept we are small fry, cut our cloth accordingly, intrust the youths, and start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosemite sam Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I have to agree. Get the bigot brothers out. OK so we lose out on some TV money, but what I reckon we get in return is a more competative league where at least 8 teams could win it. Fans coming back because of the reason above. Then perhaps let the squirm back in on our terms not theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just caught a bit on Real Radio that Motherwell have now distanced themselves/raised concerns about the 10 team proposal. Never heard much else about it other than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just caught a bit on Real Radio that Motherwell have now distanced themselves/raised concerns about the 10 team proposal. Never heard much else about it other than that. They're reading the club statement on the website as a distancing. Kinda helps knit a non story about a non story I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'd imagine 'we' like the idea of playing the OF four times at home over a season but not the very real threat of relegation from a 10 team league. Decisions, decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 The whole set up just stinks!! i congratulate the reps from Dundee Utd and Killie for standing up and coming up with a better more radicle solution to the durge that is Scottish Football at the moment. Ive watched Motherwell for 30 yrs and have never been so bored by the game and the people in charge, this includes the people in charge of our own club!! Football and more importantly football fans have changed, i have a 6 yr old who plays and likes playing football but trying to get him to fir park is a total chore, he says its too cold and miserable!! as do the majority of weans (our future fans) feel!! Maybe kids are not as hardy as they have been in the past and are too used to being pampered but this is the way of things!! We are crying out for summer football, seasons from March to November, and for the years there are World Cups/ Euros, start a few weeks earlier and end a few weeks later!! If anything if we do qualify as a nation the players will be half way through the season, sharp and not jaded at the end of an arduous season!! Sky i'm sure would be back in the equasion as they would have around 4 months of football free telly as the english season would close, crowds would go up, kids would attend in their strips, i can only see positives from summer football!! Ditch the 2 leagues of 10 idea, a greedy idea for the bigger clubs, 16 team league in summer where young players can come through will work !! my 30 yrs of supporting may be gone due to my apathy along with many others i know who support many other clubs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Drastic times perhaps mean drastic actions. Setup a league structure without the old firm! With their greed and bigotry, they've destroyed the game in Scotland. This is perhaps the motion the fans of teams outwith the old firm should push for. 1st Division clubs survive and seem to serve up a reasonable level of football, without the additional monies from sky and espn. Our clubs need to stop playing keeping up with the English. Never going to happen. Accept we are small fry, cut our cloth accordingly, intrust the youths, and start again. Agree with that 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special aka Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just caught a bit on Real Radio that Motherwell have now distanced themselves/raised concerns about the 10 team proposal. BBC1 News reports ourselves and St Mirren have switched allegiance to the Kilmarnock,Inverness,DundeeUtd,Hearts,Hamilton camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 BBC1 News reports ourselves and St Mirren have switched allegiance to the Kilmarnock,Inverness,DundeeUtd,Hearts,Hamilton camp. So, 3 more and we can tell the OF to go fuck themselves in a league of 2? Widnae take Sky long to get fed up with showing their pish every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 They're reading the club statement on the website as a distancing. Kinda helps knit a non story about a non story I suppose Cheers. Had a feeling there probably wasn't too much to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 BBC1 News reports ourselves and St Mirren have switched allegiance to the Kilmarnock,Inverness,DundeeUtd,Hearts,Hamilton camp. So, 3 more and we can tell the OF to go fuck themselves in a league of 2? Widnae take Sky long to get fed up with showing their pish every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 That was part of it. The other part, of course, was financial. When teams started to keep their gate receipts (rather than split them 50/50) playing the OF at home 4 times a year was a big deal (or at least, became much more important). It was also in response to Celtic's annexation of the league title, it was felt the league had become too predictable. The top 10 was based on a format that the Bundesliga had originated, but never actually adopted. They had more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCC Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just read Mr Weirs statement, which all seems a little reactive and a little too late and once again misses the point!! Maybe the line: "What we do have to bear in mind is the importance of the funds we receive from TV deals" should have been replaced by: "What we do have to bear in mind is the importance of the funds we receive from the fans".... Such short term thinking as opposed to radical change that may result in a product that actually tempts fans back to Fir Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotts Well Fan Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Guys, sorry if this has been posted before but here is link to petion against 10 team league. http://www.petitiononline.com/10teamsp/petition.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The whole set up just stinks!! i congratulate the reps from Dundee Utd and Killie for standing up and coming up with a better more radicle solution to the durge that is Scottish Football at the moment.Ive watched Motherwell for 30 yrs and have never been so bored by the game and the people in charge, this includes the people in charge of our own club!! Football and more importantly football fans have changed, i have a 6 yr old who plays and likes playing football but trying to get him to fir park is a total chore, he says its too cold and miserable!! as do the majority of weans (our future fans) feel!! Maybe kids are not as hardy as they have been in the past and are too used to being pampered but this is the way of things!! We are crying out for summer football, seasons from March to November, and for the years there are World Cups/ Euros, start a few weeks earlier and end a few weeks later!! If anything if we do qualify as a nation the players will be half way through the season, sharp and not jaded at the end of an arduous season!! Sky i'm sure would be back in the equasion as they would have around 4 months of football free telly as the english season would close, crowds would go up, kids would attend in their strips, i can only see positives from summer football!! Ditch the 2 leagues of 10 idea, a greedy idea for the bigger clubs, 16 team league in summer where young players can come through will work !! my 30 yrs of supporting may be gone due to my apathy along with many others i know who support many other clubs!! +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 SPL rebel clubs have been warned they will be face the anger of the clubs in favour of a 10-team top league when they reconvene on 17 January. Hamilton chairman Ronnie MacDonald has accused them of not providing a workable alternative. (The Sun) Who said chairmen are shortsighted? So the chairman of the team most likely to go down is in favour of the set up that will give him more money when the inevitable happens. And complains that teams that were, in the main, not on the working committee don't have an alternative proposal. Well for one - they weren't on a working committee charged with looking at providing working options, for two they shouldn't just accept any old shite - if it is in fact SHIITE. I hope they go under - fallacy of a football club Bring back Airdrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris*Kaizer 2*Nunn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Who said chairmen are shortsighted? So the chairman of the team most likely to go down is in favour of the set up that will give him more money when the inevitable happens. And complains that teams that were, in the main, not on the working committee don't have an alternative proposal. Well for one - they weren't on a working committee charged with looking at providing working options, for two they shouldn't just accept any old shite - if it is in fact SHIITE. I hope they go under - fallacy of a football club Bring back Airdrie Congrats steve! you have just figured out how to make the SPL worse than the top 10 team division! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 We are crying out for summer football, seasons from March to November, and for the years there are World Cups/ Euros, start a few weeks earlier and end a few weeks later!! If anything if we do qualify as a nation the players will be half way through the season, sharp and not jaded at the end of an arduous season!! On this element alone I see that Blatter seems to be confident the World Cup in Qatar will take place in January rather than the usual June/July set up. The hope ofcourse is that Scotland will be there and as such the SPL will have enough players away that a shutdown would be required anyway (there could already be a winter break in place by then ofcourse). But if itsn't already up for discussion surely this gives an ideal opportunity to at least trial the March - November set up for even 1 or 2 seasons around this particular tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Congrats steve! you have just figured out how to make the SPL worse than the top 10 team division! Airdrie games are usually eventful at least (inside and outside the ground) - unlike the pansies from the south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris*Kaizer 2*Nunn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Airdrie games are usually eventful at least (inside and outside the ground) - unlike the pansies from the south I bet Airdrie have more fans as well! they defo have a better stadium That place is a shithole, how Hamilton are allowed to stay in the SPL with the farce of a stadium that is i dont understand. But again this is the SPL oh well everythings up for a laugh here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I bet Airdrie have more fans as well! they defo have a better stadium That place is a shithole, how Hamilton are allowed to stay in the SPL with the farce of a stadium that is i dont understand. But again this is the SPL oh well everythings up for a laugh here Given where they were throughout my childhood, Accies deserve credit for what they have achieved in recent years. They showed some long term vision and commited to developing their youth and have since reaped the rewards both on and off the pitch. Just a shame they lost so many fans by having to move out the town for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris*Kaizer 2*Nunn Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 i dont detest hamilton, as ive said on here before they dont bother me i just find their stadium a disgrace and they have some truely awful players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotts Well Fan Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 i dont detest hamilton, as ive said on here before they dont bother mei just find their stadium a disgrace and they have some truely awful players According to a couple of threads on here you could easily be talking about the Well!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainbus Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I agree with some of the earlier stuff, get rid of the old firm, vote the wankers out. Start from scratch with a new league format that suits everyone. Advertisers and sponsors will always need the platform and exposure that football in Scotland provides, with or without the Glasgow gits and tv will always provide that. Reduce the wage bills for players. No matter what clubs might end up paying them it is still a more attractive option for most young players early in their careers, especially the way things are going with the economy. We can't hold onto players these days regardless of what we pay them. Think again about gate prices. Clubs could integrate themselves more with the local community because more than ever they need them. I don't think all this would be easy but I would love to give it a go and give the old firm a fright. For too long that pair have moaned their tits off about our football and done zero to help it along while blaming everything and everyone in Scottish football. I'm sure there is a place for them, maybe we should decide where it is. Dunno if I have articulated myself the way I wanted but that's the best I could manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocelot Groomin' Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 why the fk were the old firm on a league change steering commity when they've made it clear they will leave at the first opportunity? This fukn farce is almost on a par with fkn bank bonuses. Something,something . .root of all evil (airdrie apart) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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