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Me too and its definitely an age thing.

I went on Friday not expecting a lot and the team duly delivered. 5 years ago I would have been punching walls and been a nightmare to live with for a couple of days but now I just shrug my shoulders and try to motivate myself to go to the next game.

I think its going to get worse with the likes of Dundee Killie et al getting inward investment so they will probably (although not necessarily) be able to afford better players which in theory will leave clubs like us scraping along the bottom of the table fighting relegation.

Hopefully we get some investment, some new blood on the board and some kind of settled squad.

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57 minutes ago, dennyc said:

Also, as much as some fans have an OTT dislike of Imrie, perhaps he is turning out to be a very good Manager and an astute tactician. Credit where credit's due. He did us over.

He's turning out to be as big a pain in the arse as a manager as he was a player.

Interesting that a relative rookie was able to beat us tactically at the first time of asking when an old hand like Levein couldn't do it in 3 attempts.

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9 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

He's turning out to be as big a pain in the arse as a manager as he was a player.

Interesting that a relative rookie was able to beat us tactically at the first time of asking when an old hand like Levein couldn't do it in 3 attempts.

Was he not in charge of Morton when Donnelly scored a late extra time winner at Fir Park to avoid a penalty shoot out? They put up a decent showing that game as well although we did waste lots of chances and dominate possession.

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22 minutes ago, dennyc said:

Was he not in charge of Morton when Donnelly scored a late extra time winner at Fir Park to avoid a penalty shoot out? They put up a decent showing that game as well although we did waste lots of chances and dominate possession.

You're right. Feels like an awful long time ago now.

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2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.

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Β It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.Β 

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2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.

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Β It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.Β 

Great post and I get what you are saying.

I think we are more or less where we were when I started watching in mid 70s,

i . e mid table top league.... obviously there's a lot happened in between , cup win, relegation, play off win. That's just off top of my head...I did waver for a few years , circa 2004.

I still get a buzz here and there but if you analyse why you go too much , you probably would jack it in, the authorities don't sell it well, playing in dead of winter etc...it's better than shopping is about the best I can give you....keep the faith bud, we need you

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Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.

Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something elseΒ  and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.

This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.

So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceoΒ  watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.

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2 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

Check you're facts, not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate. As I previously said, it wasn't a game for young Miller, but plenty games it will be. I've watched us for over 60 years, some ups, some downs. We move on. But 100%, Imrie didn't beat us on tactics and now way is he good enough to be a top manager. He's just a throwback to an angry man type manager.Β 

I've already acknowledged this was his second game against us. That's the only fact. Why you think they won and we lost is opinion.

What's Dougie Imrie's disciplinary record as a manager?

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11 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

Check you're facts, not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate. As I previously said, it wasn't a game for young Miller, but plenty games it will be. I've watched us for over 60 years, some ups, some downs. We move on. But 100%, Imrie didn't beat us on tactics and now way is he good enough to be a top manager. He's just a throwback to an angry man type manager.Β 

Talking of an angry man! Maybe you should check your facts.

Like him or loathe him, Imrie's record at Morton is decent. Since taking charge in late 2021 he led them clear of probable relegation and then missed the play offs last season on goal difference. Currently in a play off position on a good unbeaten run. Numerous Manager of the Month awards and a win % in excess of 40. In a League where his budget is way below the majority of his opposition. And the team he coaches has just deservedly beaten a team from the Division above. As I said previously, credit where credit's due.

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41 minutes ago, Wee Dougie said:

not the first time and certainly didn't beat us tactically. Our players were told how they would play, but unfortunately didn't step up to the plate.

Can I check my understanding of what you said Dougie? More on me than you. You're saying the manager got his tactics pretty much spot on and that his team selection, with the exception of Miller, and substitutions was pretty fine as well. The players couldn't or wouldn't (we don't know which) follow out his instructions.Β 

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56 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.

Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something elseΒ  and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.

This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.

So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceoΒ  watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.

You are a better man than me mate , I only travel from EK to Motherwell. If I had 70 mile round trips I think I'd be done.Β 

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1 hour ago, Spit_It_Out said:

Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.

Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something elseΒ  and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.

This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.

So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceoΒ  watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.

Feel the same. I been going 45 years too and similar age. I'm fed up if the constant rebuilding and as soon as we get half decent player, we loose him. I know we are a selling club but the fans must have something to inspire us and keep going. It's getting boring and predictable. I remember we used to have at least one player worth going to see. Not too excited about which space in bottom 6 we will get to. Will see what CEO has to say also.Β 

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3 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.

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Β It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.Β 

Your post summed up how I've been feeling for a few years and interesting how it has generated similar responses.

Been following since early 70s when living in EK, been in Clacks for 35 years now, thats been a lot of 80 mile round trips (although at least I'm closer to Dundee, Perth, Aberdeen 🀣).

We had 2 season tickets in the family, both lapsed, and increasingly its only to meet up with great folks I've met over the years that keeps me going, but not as frequently as before.

I don't blame any one thing for this; it's many things from overall state of Scottish Football, my utter contempt for the Old Firm, the constant stream of loan players and a lack of quality and entertainment, while understanding our finances, the bile that occasionally surfaces when things go wrong.

I've had some great times and experienced great moments in my time following, but they are fading into the past and frankly I don't see any of that returning

Will still attend fairly regularly but it's now down the order of priorities and I'm past getting angsty about it. Indeed maybe it is just an age thing.

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Completely agree with some of the above posts. I just turned 34 and whilst I don’t go to any games I support my team just as much from afar. I spent a few months in California there and I was up at 7am every week to watch us get absolutely scudded and put in awful performance after awful performance. These days it feels much more like a chore and something I do out of necessity rather than enjoyment.

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I don’t think it’s an age thing. I think the mediocrity and staleness of it all is just getting to people, and as someone above said it looks like it’s going to be that way for the next while.

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Oh well, Aberdeen Hearts and Celtic up next.Β 

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Like a few others who have posted I’ve been going to Fir Park since the mid to late 1960s. In that time there’s been lots of great highs and heartbreaking lows.

However I can’t help feeling that for a few years now the club has fallen into an ever descending downward spiral.

Other than our struggling on the playing side (which inevitably fluctuates from year to year) there are other worrying factors at play.

We occupy a ground that’s been way past its best for a long time now and despite the large amounts of money shelled out on it in recent years it really isn’t fit for purpose anymore. It seems Β that the club has lacked and probably still does lack vision to deal with this. I think other than Dens Park our ground is the worst in the top flight.

We still haven’t appointed a new CEO or found a new chairman and the club has been allowed to become rudderless for too long.

By its the own admission the badly needs an injection of new investment. Β The recent attempt at trying to attract interested parties was a bit amateurish and seems to have been fruitless - other than a few people joining the Well Society.

I always looked forward to the cup competitions but our recent performances in these have been mediocre and for the second year running we’ve been knocked out of the Scottish Cup by a team from a lower league.

It may well be an age thing but going to games now has become more of a penance than a pleasure.

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I've been going to Fir Park since the late 50s and haven't lost my enthusiasm. I still get annoyed at defeats but am no longer surprised. TV has changed the game irreversibly and its a small, very smallΒ  consolation, that it's nothing to do with me. I'll continue to support MFC come what may.Β 

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1 hour ago, bobbybingo said:

Och well, would've been a trip to Parkhead.

Just out of interest, does anyone know how much the club earns from a trip to Park head?

I'm not sure it's that much but then I've never been and am basing my opinion in the low numbers of our fans that are permitted to attend.

Or does the club get a share of the whole attendance?

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8 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

I've been going to Fir Park since the late 50s and haven't lost my enthusiasm. I still get annoyed at defeats but am no longer surprised. TV has changed the game irreversibly and its a small, very smallΒ  consolation, that it's nothing to do with me. I'll continue to support MFC come what may.Β 

The club is fortunate to have guys like you , guys like me not so, I'm at the stage after unstinting support for 46 years I'm sick to the back teeth of it. I could walk away tomorrow. It's only habit that keeps me going and the great people I have gone to games with. If they gave up I'd finish tomorrow. I stress it's got fuck all to do with the Morton game. I thoroughly expected that result. I've felt like this for 5/6 years now.

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38 minutes ago, El Grew said:

However I can’t help feeling that for a few years now the club has fallen into an ever descending downward spiral.

Thing is, it's not just our club. I could live with that, having seen us play even worse at times over these many long years. And at least we haven't been relegated, unlike Hibs, Hearts, Dundee, Dundee Utd etc.

However, the whole league is now an increasingly bad joke - I mean, how can we be THIS bad this season, and still be above so many other teams? The general quality is in the toilet, "entertainment" is often non-existent (thank heavens for KVV last season) and the spiral is indeed ever-downwards, I just can't see any light at the end of this dismal tunnel.

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