MJC Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said: No one of note has wanted this job since Alexander and there are three bigger jobs in the same division that are open. Hope the club has got a great pitch lined up. Alexander left almost three years ago. Get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: He wasn't a messiah.........he was a naughty naughty boy 🤣🤣 Gets a bit samey after the fifth time bud 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, stv said: Gets a bit samey after the fifth time bud 👍 Are you saying I come out with the same jokes? 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Are you saying I come out with the same jokes? 🤣🤣 I'll let you know when I see one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 10 hours ago, Yoshi-1991 said: I know what your saying about Haliday but on the other hand it's wild to be saying it about the only player to not miss a game this season 😂 I hear you Yoshi and no doubt my thinking is skewed by a bias of Campbell, I loved the effort the lad put in over the years. And fair play to Halliday for playing every game at 33. Im sort of expecting him to step back a little next year and play less game but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 No reason now why the release list shouldn't be published. Her Wimmer himself said, before last weekend, that he had a clear idea as to who he wanted to retain. Given timescales no reason now why that list can't be made public. That said, there may be one or two individual negotiations still continuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Are you saying I come out with the same jokes? 🤣🤣 Until Christmas ,then it's a new batch from the crackers.🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Luke Armstrong going back to Carlisle by the looks of things Mark Hughes quoted as saying he previously tried to sign him , and if he had been manager in January wouldn't have allowed him to go on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 33 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: Luke Armstrong going back to Carlisle by the looks of things Mark Hughes quoted as saying he previously tried to sign him , and if he had been manager in January wouldn't have allowed him to go on loan A lot of Wimmer’s ‘plans’ will now probably be in the bin, whatever they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 hours ago, wellfan said: A lot of Wimmer’s ‘plans’ will now probably be in the bin, whatever they were. For me that's a big worry as whoever comes in will have a very short window with no idea of what the team needs re new players and probably be listening to Clarkson, Foster or Obika for advice which gives me the fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 28 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: For me that's a big worry as whoever comes in will have a very short window with no idea of what the team needs re new players and probably be listening to Clarkson, Foster or Obika for advice which gives me the fear. The actual transfer window doesn't "slam shut" until 1st September, so from that perspective there is plenty of time. Most of the players are off for a fortnight in Ibiza at this point, so the ideal timing would be to have a new man in place early June. There is a risk the league cup group stages might be a complete write-off as new players and new ideas are put into place, but more important that we get things right going into the new league campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 Don’t really care too much about league cup. Would be nice to win it, but for me, it lost a lot once they took away the European place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Don’t really care too much about league cup. Would be nice to win it, but for me, it lost a lot once they took away the European place. I feel differently these days. Most of us have seen Motherwell in Europe. The number of us to have seen us win a trophy is getting smaller all the time. If you offered me third place next season or a league cup win, it's the claret and amber ribbons every time. But that's maybe just me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 I have not seen us play in Europe. Moved over here in 1989. Closest I got was the year Sligo Rovers put us out. I was home for the dates of the next round 😡 I did come back for Scottish cup finals in 1991, 2011 and 2018 but didnt come back for either of the league cup finals. Of course, I’d be delighted to see us win a league cup but I’m definitely more disappointed when we get knocked out of Scottish cup than league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, MelvinBragg said: I feel differently these days. Most of us have seen Motherwell in Europe. The number of us to have seen us win a trophy is getting smaller all the time. If you offered me third place next season or a league cup win, it's the claret and amber ribbons every time. But that's maybe just me... You are 💯 spot on I would say Importance of course is being a top flight club for me After that Scottish cup first League cup second Finishing in a European position third I confess to being jealous of other teams walking round Hampden with a cup in the last 15 years or so. I will finish this by saying well done Alan Burrows and Aberdeen . Saved us from listening about the talk of another treble . A guy who I went to school with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 It's an interesting topic. A cup win would be great. It's a long season, however, and regardless of European places, finishing 3rd would likely mean a good number of wins along the way providing regular entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 30 minutes ago, weeyin said: It's an interesting topic. A cup win would be great. It's a long season, however, and regardless of European places, finishing 3rd would likely mean a good number of wins along the way providing regular entertainment. Aye, obviously if we're finishing third then we've won loads of games and this is no bad thing. But in terms of just a straight choice between Europe and a trophy, a trophy please... Naturally, I would settle for either... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 ‘Europe’ for us is great on paper but in reality it is us playing two glorified friendlies which either end in anti-climax or utter humiliation. Give me the league cup group stages over that any day of the week. Winning a trophy, Scottish Cup or the League Cup would be the ultimate achievement for us. We’re never going to win the League title obviously but the Cups give you that outside chance of tangible success and that for me would piss all over any ‘European tour’ and all that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 Give me a cup win over Europe any time. 1991 was great but 34 years ago. We need new memories. Also winning Scottish Cup can get you European group stage football if co efficient stays ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 What if we were like St Johnstone and we played eye-bleedingly painful football for a few seasons, won 2 cups, and continued to play eye-bleedingly painful football on our way to relegation? Or would you rather have a few more McCall like seasons where we finished 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 5 hours ago, MJC said: ‘Europe’ for us is great on paper but in reality it is us playing two glorified friendlies which either end in anti-climax or utter humiliation. Give me the league cup group stages over that any day of the week. Winning a trophy, Scottish Cup or the League Cup would be the ultimate achievement for us. We’re never going to win the League title obviously but the Cups give you that outside chance of tangible success and that for me would piss all over any ‘European tour’ and all that crap. I've great memories of going on the European tours but it was mainly because I was seeing places and grounds I'd never been to rather than "being in Europe". I've had just as good memories from going to places like Stranraer and Elgin that I'd never visited. A cup win would supercede anything else for me and to get the chance to re live 1991 again would be the icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 I know I'm just throwing hypotheticals around here, but that's what happens when the season is finished. Would we tolerate a season like Spurs if we lost 21 games, but won the Scottish Cup? I 100% agree that it's a lot of fun going to grounds you've never visited before and find it sad a lot of the places we were able to visit when we were in the First Division have long since gone. Of course, I'd be delighted if we won another piece of silverware. I'm lucky, however, to have been at Hampden in 1991. I also watched us win the old First Division twice which, while not quite as prestigious, was still a great experience - in particular because it meant we won a shed load of games along the way. I'm not worried about the European place awarded when you finish 2nd or 3rd in the league, I'm more interested in the number of games won to achieve it. One of the most enjoyable seasons in recent memory was when we pipped Aberdeen to 2nd place with the last kick of the ball at Pittodrie - the same season that Albion Rovers knocked us out the cup. Would I swap that for a Cup Win and finishing 9th? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 Every Motherwell fan still alive has only ever seen us win at most 3 cups, league cup in 1950 and Scottish cup in 1952, & 1991, and for the vast majority it will only be 1. Is that record vastly different for any other club in the league apart from The ugly sisters and Aberdeen. In Scotland only the uglies win trophies on a regular basis, the rest of us have to wait for a win every 35 to 40 years etc for a special season. We've had 4 major finals since 1991, 2 league cup in 2005, 2018 and 2 Scottish cup in 2011 and 2018 and faced Celtic 3 tines and lost them all and Rangers once again losing. All this chat about other clubs winning cups etc is nonsense, it took Hibs over 100 years to win one ffs, St J had a special season won 2 trophies but never played either of the ugly sisters in doing so, as is the case for most of the other winners. So in my lifetime I've been at 5 cup finals supporting Motherwell, 4 of them defeats against the best teams in the country, and 1 win our special season in 1991. So for a club of our size our record in major trophies is is decent. And I suspect if a comparison was done against the other teams, uglies excepted re finals reached, games won etc we would be high on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 2 hours ago, Spiderpig said: Every Motherwell fan still alive has only ever seen us win at most 3 cups, league cup in 1950 and Scottish cup in 1952, & 1991, and for the vast majority it will only be 1. Is that record vastly different for any other club in the league apart from The ugly sisters and Aberdeen. In Scotland only the uglies win trophies on a regular basis, the rest of us have to wait for a win every 35 to 40 years etc for a special season. We've had 4 major finals since 1991, 2 league cup in 2005, 2018 and 2 Scottish cup in 2011 and 2018 and faced Celtic 3 tines and lost them all and Rangers once again losing. All this chat about other clubs winning cups etc is nonsense, it took Hibs over 100 years to win one ffs, St J had a special season won 2 trophies but never played either of the ugly sisters in doing so, as is the case for most of the other winners. So in my lifetime I've been at 5 cup finals supporting Motherwell, 4 of them defeats against the best teams in the country, and 1 win our special season in 1991. So for a club of our size our record in major trophies is is decent. And I suspect if a comparison was done against the other teams, uglies excepted re finals reached, games won etc we would be high on the list. If everyone had the luck Aberdeen have had to win this seasons cup we'd all have a few trophies in our lifetime 😂😂 Draw Elgin City Dunfermline Queens Park Hearts And the Celtic Keeper throws the ball in the net for them yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 You do need a huge slice of luck to win any trophy, regardless of how good you are. We had plenty along the way to our victory, and if after failing to beat Morton home and away, we had lost the penalty shootout at Cappielow, it would have just been another average cup run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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