wunderwell Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, ppower said: All I will say is our record away from home against other Top 6 clubs is abysmal. He Managers tactics/selection also saw us wimp out of 2 cup competitions. The only things we can realistically win. Let's not get carried away with JBA. He has achieved nothing apart from pleasant on the eye tippy tappy football which teams are getting wise to. There is no steel in the team. There is never plan B. He plays the same guys over and over again. Guys like Nicholson, McGee get about 10 to 15 minutes of play when the game is running away from us. Use of substitutes is not good. The only time yesterday we broke their lines was the consolation goal. Apart from that it was the usual slow pass to death build up combined with Kamikaze dithering at the back. There is nothing wrong with getting the ball forward quick but this seems anathema to JBA. So we get a Top 6 finish. The team we played yesterday also have a Top 6 finish and a winnable cup semi after getting promotion from the Championship. I would say John McGlynn has been a more effective manager than JBA. Motherwell fans need to get realistic about what has been achieved instead of drooling over passing drills. European football is an achievement., We are in line to get it. Falkirk are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 25 minutes ago, wunderwell said: European football is an achievement., We are in line to get it. Falkirk are not. Unless they win the cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, MJC said: In fairness I would put Tommy Coyne in the legend category. He never won silverware with us but he was the spearhead of a fantastic Motherwell side and scored many a crucial goal. He was also a terrific footballer into the bargain. Likewise guys like Keith Lasley, Stephen Craigan and Stevie Hammell, all club legends in my book for the many years of great service they gave us. I was referring to managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, MJC said: I haven’t at any point said that we haven’t been very good this season overall. We have clearly surpassed all pre-season expectations and then some and indeed the football we have shown we are capable of playing has been the best in as long as I can remember, possibly since McGhee’s first season back in 07/08. But nothing is black and white. There was nothing that I said earlier that wasn’t factual. We failed to win a league match until late September, throwing away a bucketload of points early season. We have a very poor record against the top six sides especially away from home. In both Cup competitions we exited in absolutely dismal fashion and the Scottish Cup tie against Aberdeen saw the manager rotate the team for no good reason. And since mid-late February we have fallen away performance and result wise and from being talked about as potential title contenders we now look like we could throw away fourth place. Now, let me be clear, even if that does happen it will still have been a very good season for us but I think while there will be a great deal of fondness for this season, Jens and the way we have played when we are at our best, there will also be a degree of “what might have been” or even possibly “what should have been”. JBA has been very good for us in his short time and I hope we can hang onto him. But he is not a club ‘legend’ yet as was suggested and he is certainly not the next Pep Guardiola as you would think with the way some both inside and outside our support have been gushing over him. He could very well go on to be a legend of Motherwell FC but he is nowhere near that yet. Artichoke. Cholmondely. Pedigree CHUM. You’ve done it again! In your previous message you claimed our manager is bang average and in this one you are doing the exact same thing in pulling out stats to suit a narrative. We are clearly not going to win every game so beyond that you look at the performances and most have been very good even when we have drawn or lost. Stop trying to make this something it’s not. We have had an excellent season, have a great team and a very good manager. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 17 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: I was referring to managers. Before my time, but Bobby Ancell would probably qualify as a legend to most older fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 57 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: Unless they win the cup True. Personally, I hope they don't. Their fans seem to have a real problem with Motherwell, whether they're greetin about getting relegated at Fir Park, being refused promotion while we stayed up, or (as I read today) their keeper getting sent off in 1992 for mouthing off about a Falkirk free-kick that turned into a shy (immediately followed by a goal) for us. I suppose they had plenty of time to seethe in the lower divisions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: True. Personally, I hope they don't. Their fans seem to have a real problem with Motherwell, whether they're greetin about getting relegated at Fir Park, being refused promotion while we stayed up, or (as I read today) their keeper getting sent off in 1992 for mouthing off about a Falkirk free-kick that turned into a shy (immediately followed by a goal) for us. I suppose they had plenty of time to seethe in the lower divisions. I'll be rooting for the Pars to knock them out for these reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, johnstone said: You’ve done it again! In your previous message you claimed our manager is bang average and in this one you are doing the exact same thing in pulling out stats to suit a narrative. We are clearly not going to win every game so beyond that you look at the performances and most have been very good even when we have drawn or lost. Stop trying to make this something it’s not. We have had an excellent season, have a great team and a very good manager. I think it’s you who is trying to make something of nothing. I will say it again, this has been a very good season and JBA has been very good for us, surpassing all expectations. Obviously he is not perfect but we are never going to have the perfect manager. A poster earlier in the thread described him as a legend, which I completely disagree with because he hasn’t been here anywhere near long enough and we don’t yet know how this season is going to pan out. We might still get Europe, we might not but whatever happens it will still have been a good season. It’s just that it could have been even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, MJC said: I think it’s you who is trying to make something of nothing. I will say it again, this has been a very good season and JBA has been very good for us, surpassing all expectations. Obviously he is not perfect but we are never going to have the perfect manager. A poster earlier in the thread described him as a legend, which I completely disagree with because he hasn’t been here anywhere near long enough and we don’t yet know how this season is going to pan out. We might still get Europe, we might not but whatever happens it will still have been a good season. It’s just that it could have been even better. Have you got any other hobbies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, wellon said: Have you got any other hobbies? Sometimes I like to ride bareback through the fields with the wind in my hair. Only when the mood takes me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 53 minutes ago Report Share Posted 53 minutes ago 54 minutes ago, MJC said: I think it’s you who is trying to make something of nothing. I will say it again, this has been a very good season and JBA has been very good for us, surpassing all expectations. Obviously he is not perfect but we are never going to have the perfect manager. A poster earlier in the thread described him as a legend, which I completely disagree with because he hasn’t been here anywhere near long enough and we don’t yet know how this season is going to pan out. We might still get Europe, we might not but whatever happens it will still have been a good season. It’s just that it could have been even better. Poster something I have not been called before. I just wish I had said JBA was rank rotten, would have got less coverage. This forum defies belief. Been brilliant to watch all season but minute we go on a bad run its back to reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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