Spit_It_Out Posted Saturday at 09:28 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:28 PM Whats happened today sums up what the Glasgow two are all about Hearts players ushered onto bus still in kits,Celtic fans coming right upto Derek McInnes face giving him the fingers fans on the pitch BTW but nah slap on the wrist I would make them play first three games next season behind closed doors happens again then make it another three and so on. Hope the SFA release a statement about Celtic team fans intimidating opponents after the final whistle truly has been an embarrassing week for Scottish football when you have a professional business run by amateurs. Today is totally unforgivable for me and Glasgow council should send the damage and clean up bill direct to Celtic park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted Saturday at 09:56 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 09:56 PM 2 hours ago, Happy Dosser said: Did anyone else hear Tam Cowan today after the match on Radio Scotland? If I heard him correctly, he said he had seen pictures which showed Nicholson had clearly handled the ball in the incident against Celtic. Of course, I may have misheard him but I wondered if anyone else had heard his remarks? Strict liability will never be employed in Scottish football because the OT would have to be punished properly. Now I hear of another pitch invasion by Celtic and their officials today and an alleged assault on Lawrence Shankland. I'm sure the SFA will be all over it....... There are loads of AI fake images doing the rounds showing ' a clear handball" no doubt Gollum will refer to them to justify Dallas and Beatons feck up. As for Tam Cowan, hes a walloper and best ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted Saturday at 10:07 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:07 PM Cowan wasn’t even at the game at the time, he shuffled past me around the 80min mark to go and nosh off his mate Rod. hes looked at the still images afterwards because I would defy any person seeing that in real time to say it was a handball. as mentioned previously…. Just another bbc employee scared to speak up, he’s best ignored. Leave it to folk with a bit of a backbone like Michael Stewart to speak up and get cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted Saturday at 10:09 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 10:09 PM If the photos are real or fake makes no difference as they weren’t viewed by VAR or the referee at the time they made their decision to award the penalty looking at a grainy, unclear image which did not show conclusively that an error had occurred so anyone using them to justify the decision is just talking shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted Sunday at 12:52 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 12:52 PM If anyone still fancies a laugh/seethe about Wednesday night, check out the 'accidental' handball decision for Man United's second goal today, complete with a referee overruling VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM 6 hours ago, bobbybingo said: If anyone still fancies a laugh/seethe about Wednesday night, check out the 'accidental' handball decision for Man United's second goal today, complete with a referee overruling VAR. Loved the Forrest fans singing "are you Celtic in disguise"... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted yesterday at 09:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:54 AM Lineker and Shearer (but what would they know?) still bemoaning the "penalty" at Fir Park and its consequences from about 25 mins in: When will the SFA release Dallas"s comments to Beaton, do you think? Sometime/never? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:48 AM 49 minutes ago, Happy Dosser said: When will the SFA release Dallas"s comments to Beaton, do you think? Sometime/never? There is more chance of the true story of JFK,'s assasination in Dallas being released than hearing any of the VAR audio from last Wednesday ie never. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inflato Posted yesterday at 11:54 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:54 AM 1 hour ago, Happy Dosser said: Lineker and Shearer (but what would they know?) still bemoaning the "penalty" at Fir Park and its consequences from about 25 mins in: When will the SFA release Dallas"s comments to Beaton, do you think? Sometime/never? I heard the smallest of whispers that there were "technical difficulties" with the audio during *that* VAR review... But I'm sure that's nonsense 🫣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:32 PM 5 hours ago, Happy Dosser said: When will the SFA release Dallas"s comments to Beaton, do you think? Sometime/never? Probably once they’ve made extra winners’ medals for them, then concocted some ridiculous justification for yet another “honest mistake.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago 11 hours ago, Inflato said: I heard the smallest of whispers that there were "technical difficulties" with the audio during *that* VAR review. I heard the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago The VAR Review show is expected to be Fri 22nd. In previous shows Collum has suggested: >That a hand in front of face may not be punishable >That stills are unhelpful because they lack context >Onfield decision cannot be overturned unless it can be 100% proven otherwise. They have fudged the decision, but will try an justify it, no doubt with contradictory statements to previous explanations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: I heard the same. Pardon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago It's mind blowing after the week they have had that McLean gets to referee the Scottish Cup Final and Dallas and Beaton each get to do VAR in one of the Playoff Final matches. Willie going all out in his support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, pretzel said: It's mind blowing after the week they have had that McLean gets to referee the Scottish Cup Final and Dallas and Beaton each get to do VAR in one of the Playoff Final matches. Willie going all out in his support. Yep, a GIRUY to all of us who care about Scottish football. It will never happen but the clubs should unite to force a complete overhaul of the refereeing system in our country. Its cosy and incompetent, self-serving cabal needs to be removed. I can't remember Jens's exact words in a recent interview but it was along the lines of "Why bother playing football at all when there are decisions like these?" Our game is rigged for everyone to see now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, pretzel said: It's mind blowing after the week they have had that McLean gets to referee the Scottish Cup Final and Dallas and Beaton each get to do VAR in one of the Playoff Final matches. Willie going all out in his support. Yup totally agree, no responsibility or accountability for blatantly wrong decisions especially the shambles the other wednesday at Fir Park which effectively cost Hearts the title. The referees do what they like and the fuds at the SFA back them all the way, openly pandering to two clubs at the expense of the other 40. And if thats not bad enough, we have a biased media, local autorities and police Scotland taking little or no action as has been said before, its Scotlands shame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 21 hours ago, Inflato said: I heard the smallest of whispers that there were "technical difficulties" with the audio during *that* VAR review... But I'm sure that's nonsense 🫣 Watching it back on Sky the commentator says there was difficulty with the communication and you see Beaton fiddling with his earphone. Even more reason to stick with the onfield decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Spiderpig said: Yup totally agree, no responsibility or accountability for blatantly wrong decisions especially the shambles the other wednesday at Fir Park which effectively cost Hearts the title. The referees do what they like and the fuds at the SFA back them all the way, openly pandering to two clubs at the expense of the other 40. And if thats not bad enough, we have a biased media, local autorities and police Scotland taking little or no action as has been said before, its Scotlands shame. Agree with most of that. The issue is the incompetence of the officials added to cheap technology and SFA denials. But all Clubs suffer, including the two they appear to pander to most. Other than us being hard done to, Newell hand ball goal Hibs v Celtic, Falkirk penalty v Rangers where Barron adjudged to have handled, Rangers denied late penalty in League Cup final v Celtic for holding, Falkirk last man red v Utd, even Hearts Maswanhise penalty if we care to be honest. All as clear examples of errors that affected outcomes and titles. We can get hung up on Rangers and Celtic all we like but the truth is that all clubs suffer. Only if they unite will things improve. They won’t because that’s the way it is up here. Also sickening is the changing narrative re final day happenings at Celtic Park. From media, SFA and Celtic/O’Neill. By tomorrow it will all have been down to Hearts, Celtic fans were just understandably exuberant and the Hearts players got bloodied by Craig Levein coming on and punching them for losing. Oh, and we are now told the final whistle was blown despite MON stating in the Daily Mail that he was ushering fans off because the fourth official told him there was a minute left. A day later he changed his mind. Sky went from a full blown invasion to several Celtic fans entered the field of play. The only ones not to change their story are Hearts, Michael Stewart who has his own axe to grind and non partisan ex players Europe wide. Hearts will likely be fined for leaving early although they did so under Police advice. As you say, Scotland is shamed and sadly most of all by those running the game. . Because we are focused on our team and there are so many errors we feel excessively cheated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago That’s 3 times in recent weeks Celtic fans have invaded the park. Ibrox, Fir Park and parkhead. Nothing from the SFA 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, texanwellfan said: That’s 3 times in recent weeks Celtic fans have invaded the park. Ibrox, Fir Park and parkhead. Nothing from the SFA 😡 Virtually no mention anywhere of the invasion at ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Not a shock that Celtic are dictating the narrative. Friends in high places allows this nosense. I said before our game is being run into the ground by dinasours in tin pot commitees and all for the benefit of two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Martin O'Neill car crash interview with Talksport yesterday and getting rightly called out. Sutton making a tit of himself on 5 Live Gary Lineker has doubled down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted 48 minutes ago Report Share Posted 48 minutes ago 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: That’s 3 times in recent weeks Celtic fans have invaded the park. Ibrox, Fir Park and parkhead. Nothing from the SFA 😡 I heard there's been 4 pitch invasions from them since March. The only thing that will stop this nonsense from any club is a points deduction. This would deter any offenders and if not it will isolate them from the behaving support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 37 minutes ago Report Share Posted 37 minutes ago As mentioned a non appealable points deduction is a simple way of dealing with it. Any supporter entering the park….. not a spilling over from the stand but support visibly on the field of play give the side involved a 2 or 3 point automatic deduction….. as in the day of the game. It’d soon stop the idiots doing it and it may even get Celtic and Rangers condemning their own support. Which both continually fail to do. the whataboutery from Celtic this week has been worse than embarrassing. Totally shameless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 14 minutes ago Report Share Posted 14 minutes ago Not sure of what documented rules the SFA have, if any. So are rules being ignored or I there are none, then some need to be put in place. ifvthats the case start by points deduction for Celtic now amd henceforth this punishment shall apply to all teams should their fans invade the pitch. Celtic should not go unpunished for these recent pitch invasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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