Wee Alpha Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Something is nor right just now. Is AJ too rigid in his approach. Has he alienated the senior players and other coaches? Anyway, I'm looking at Dec 5th before a win. A few draws before then and a few skelpings starting with Celtic. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I've stayed with the team throughout, the Roger Hynd era and the Harri Kampman era( he pissed off the senior players too) Jens would not stand for the dross being delivered or the lack of fight. Who in this team would run through a brick wall for the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Wee Alpha said: Something is nor right just now. Is AJ too rigid in his approach. Has he alienated the senior players and other coaches? I agree that something isn't right just now, thats plain for all to see. Whilst there's no evidence of internal discontent, I did wonder if it was a possible factor in or explanation for some of our better/established players' form dropping off a cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago It’s probably a reductive view, but I do wonder what the players make of being coached/managed by someone who’s never actually done their job. Respect has to be earned, not demanded, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, wellfan said: It’s probably a reductive view, but I do wonder what the players make of being coached/managed by someone who’s never actually done their job. Respect has to be earned, not demanded, If there are other issues, I don't suppose it'll help. But surely respect should be earned by how he coaches, not how he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: If there are other issues, I don't suppose it'll help. But surely respect should be earned by how he coaches, not how he played. Time will tell, but while there were some positive signs early on, things seem to be getting worse the more time he’s had to implement his ideas on the training pitch. I’m not sure where our next win is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago "Our next win" why do people think that 7 games into the season after 3 defeats that our season is over ffs. This is Motherwell, we are not going to win every game, a few bad results and its "has AJ lost the dressing room", hes "never played football" so he cant manage BS. Folk need to dry their pants and calm down, yes the team has issues that need addressed but im sure the management team will sort it out znd find the right balance for the team. With all the injuries we've had AJ has neer had the luxury of a full squad to pick from, so going forward that should ease. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsince1976 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: "Our next win" why do people think that 7 games into the season after 3 defeats that our season is over ffs. This is Motherwell, we are not going to win every game, a few bad results and its "has AJ lost the dressing room", hes "never played football" so he cant manage BS. Folk need to dry their pants and calm down, yes the team has issues that need addressed but im sure the management team will sort it out znd find the right balance for the team. With all the injuries we've had AJ has neer had the luxury of a full squad to pick from, so going forward that should ease. 100%. Even for Motherwell fans, this (over)reaction has totally bewildered me. We have no devine right to turn up and win games/finish top 6 every year. Yes, things have went sideways a bit in recent games, but this is just off the scale. I knew that last year would probably be a one off, but a lot of so called fans think we`d just carry on in the same veign of form and style of football. Reality check. It ain`t happening. As long as we can get back to playing an attractive style of attacking football, I`ll be happy. We still have a few players to come back who will walk in to the starting 11 and hopefully, some sembelance of what we`ve been used to will be resumed. It is there, remember the winner against Hibs, the opener against Freiburg? This team can play, but we need to get behind them when the chips are down. Some fans would be better suited at Ibrox or Parkhead the way they are going on! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, wellfan said: Time will tell, but while there were some positive signs early on, things seem to be getting worse the more time he’s had to implement his ideas on the training pitch. I’m not sure where our next win is coming from. The beauty of this league is, your next win can come from just about anywhere, same as your next defeat. We were flying before our last visit to Dens Park, picked up 1 point from the next 15, then won at Ibrox. Plenty of time to, hopefully, get back on track. Right now, an upturn in performance will be more important than the 3 points against Celtic. We'll see if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Like clockwork, the “pant wetter” chat comes out as soon as anyone dares to fairly criticise what they’re seeing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 42 minutes ago, Wellsince1976 said: Some fans would be better suited at Ibrox or Parkhead the way they are going on! Ahh there it is, that old holier than thou chestnut of the Motherwell faithers. ”don’t criticise the team cos that’s what Old Firm fans do, ride the well rollercoaster with pride” And as usual it is utter nonsense. No one is demanding the manager be sacked just now, no one is saying that we’re getting relegated, they are simply voicing legitimate concerns about the way we have been playing and the manager appearing to be out of his depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Plenty of time to, hopefully, get back on track. Right now, an upturn in performance will be more important than the 3 points against Celtic. We'll see if that happens. I agree. I said before the Dundee game that the performance was more important than the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 52 minutes ago Report Share Posted 52 minutes ago 28 minutes ago, wellfan said: Like clockwork, the “pant wetter” chat comes out as soon as anyone dares to fairly criticise what they’re seeing. On the same side the phrase 'happy clapper' comes out for folk that are defending the manager and team. Both phrases I hate, its simply folk giving their own views and to be fair on here at least is more mature debate. Other media forums full of right clueless folk. Doubt many folk expect us to get anything against sellik but what we do we expect is a reaction from the players and a line-up that gives us belief. A while away but I would go with Paulsen ( grudgingly) SOD. Jamie KL. Moormann. Williams Fadinger. Levitt Lowry Kanga/Said. Longelo Thor COYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 11 minutes ago Report Share Posted 11 minutes ago It’s still way too early to give a proper opinion on how we are doing imo. Points wise it’s similar to last year at the same time so that can be a slight positive. some of the displays in Europe were excellent and there has been flashes in the league games so far that does give me some hope. Against St Mirren for the first 30 mins was just as good as I’d seen last season, we caved a bit and I think there’s maybe a softness that wasn’t there last year. That softness was shown against Aberdeen and Dundee yesterday for a spell when we lost the first goal. everyone has their view and everyone can moan or happy clap as is our want but I’m still sitting in the middle group of mmmm and I think the vast majority are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted 11 minutes ago Report Share Posted 11 minutes ago Realistically next win has to come against Kilmarnock think we could take a point against Celtic but who knows, their shit as well but Kilmarnocks a must Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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