Our New Manager Who Do We Want....Again?

[Toxteth O'Grady]

Billy Davies has been out of the game for over a decade. It's not going to be him. 

[MelvinBragg]

11 minutes ago, wunderwell said:

Billy Davies would be awful imo

I know we have previous for leftfield appointments but appointing a guy that hasn't managed for over ten years would be beyond bold...

[FirParkCornerExile]

16 minutes ago, wellon said:

Do your strange feelings often come true? 

Thankfully no.. lol  I just think Davies and Imrie will get a gig sooner or later and both were in for it when Wimmer got it..

[wellon]

3 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

Thankfully no.. lol  I just think Davies and Imrie will get a gig sooner or later and both were in for it when Wimmer got it..

Hopefully not, davies definitely not...imrie kind of unknown , gor me anyway 

[star sail]

11 hours ago, wellsince75 said:

Kettlwell , 200+ games & 40% win record

Mcinnes who's left had 150 games with Killie and. 38% win record. 

When you compare to say Naismith or Docherty who have only managed 60-90 games and had win records of 30-40% I can see why SK has been offered the role. 

In essence no worse than McInnes who's been pretty good for them. Also aligns with their general playing style. 

 

This is what I struggle to understand in our game. It is now heavily dominated by analysts and statisticians and yet despite this people will blindly ignore the facts in favour of opinion.

I don't know how McIness has been able to forge the reputation he has. His Kilmarnock spell was far from exceptional and Kettlewell has matched him if not bettered him in terms of actual performance and yet Kettlewell is perceived as the the pound shop McIness. I don't get it. 

[weeyin]

2 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I've got a strange feeling it will be Billy Davies or Dougie Imrie , don't ask me why.  

I've got a feeling Davies isn't going to manage another senior club again.

[andalg]

Ahmet Koc

[wellup83]

13 hours ago, star sail said:

This is what I struggle to understand in our game. It is now heavily dominated by analysts and statisticians and yet despite this people will blindly ignore the facts in favour of opinion.

I don't know how McIness has been able to forge the reputation he has. His Kilmarnock spell was far from exceptional and Kettlewell has matched him if not bettered him in terms of actual performance and yet Kettlewell is perceived as the the pound shop McIness. I don't get it. 

Longevity in the league. Nothing more.

[Kmcalpin]

Given Michael Wimmer's comments, it's highly likely that the club knew about his concerns some weeks ago. That being the case  you'd imagine that the Directors would have started thinking about a new manager a wee while ago. 

[Spiderpig]

1 hour ago, andalg said:

Ahmet Koc

That's who I'm thinking as well now that its been confirmed he's still at the club, but if that was the case would the club not have announced it right away?

[texanwellfan]

What’s his managerial experience? 

[wellfan]

3 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

What’s his managerial experience? 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ahmet-koc/profil/trainer/34902

[mfc]

I wouldn't be surprised when wimmer left that part of the agreement was that ahmet would stay on to oversee any day to day stuff until we appoint a new manager and he would then join wimmer.hopefully the club has someone in mind and can get a deal done soon and we don't waste our time holding interviews with the likes of naismith and docherty.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cwy75nj7lkko

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Wimmer says son's face 'was beaming with joy' after Well exit

Michael Wimmer has moved close to his Bavarian roots from Motherwell

Published
1 hour ago

Michael Wimmer says his son's face "was beaming with joy" when he decided to leave Motherwell and return to Germany as Jahn Regensburg head coach having made family "my top priority".

The 44-year-old shocked the Scottish Premiership club by exiting after only 12 games in charge.

Motherwell "very reluctantly negotiated a compensation package" with the German club after Wimmer cited "major family issues" for his desire to leave.

Wimmer expressed himself "thrilled" and "excited" to join the club relegated to Germany's third tier on a contract until 2027.

"My family is, of course, very happy too," he told his new club's website. "Things have now developed to the point where I would like to return to Germany.

"The fact that it has now become so close to home is, of course, fantastic. When it was finally finalised on Friday, my son was beaming with joy – the look on his face is incomparable.

"That convinced me once again that it was the perfect decision."

Wimmer had taken over at Fir Park from Stuart Kettlewell, who has this week been named Kilmarnock manager, and steered Motherwell clear of relegation.

"I had a fantastic time in Scotland, sportingly speaking," he said. "With four games to go, we retained the league place and were able to beat Glasgow Rangers at the famous Ibrox Stadium.

"Besides sport, family is also a part of my life. They are my top priority."

Jahn sports director Achim Beierlorzer revealed that he knew Wimmer before he "reconnected" with him after the club decided they needed "a fresh start" under a new head coach.

He said it was "an additional positive" that Wimmer was from the Eastern Bavarian region and therefore knew the club well.

Wimmer was speaking as Motherwell announced the signing of Austrian midfielder Lukas Fadinger after the 24-year-old left Rheindorf Altach in his country's top flight.

Fadinger, who has signed a two-year contract, told the Premiership club's website that negotiations had been ongoing "for a couple of months".

Having started his career with Sturm Graz, he had a spell with Lafnitz in the second tier before returning to the top flight with Hartberg then two seasons with Rheindorf.

Fadinger made 61 appearances overall - 26 last season, 13 of them starts, as they narrowly avoided relegation having finished bottom at the end of the regular season before overtaking Austria Klagenfurt after the league split.

 

[robsterwood]

One of the main questions asked at interviews is about being commited to stay long term and if family moving over. Looks like he's wanted back in Bavaria for a while 

[santheman]

1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

That's who I'm thinking as well now that its been confirmed he's still at the club, but if that was the case would the club not have announced it right away?

Maybe still negotiating a salary and transfer kitty etc ??

[joewarkfanclub]

3 minutes ago, santheman said:

Maybe still negotiating a salary and transfer kitty etc ??

I would think its more likely that the club have asked Ahmet to stay on until a replacement is found.

He and Wimmer have been inseperable for some time.

I would imagine he will be off to join him again in due course.

Shame. Cause he seemed a really likeable guy and a good foil for the manager.

[santheman]

1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I would think its more likely that the club have asked Ahmet to stay on until a replacement is found.

He and Wimmer have been inseperable for some time.

I would imagine he will be off to join him again in due course.

Shame. Cause he seemed a really likeable guy and a good foil for the manager.

I think that myself more so after watching the latest video from our Chairman.

[grizzlyg]

Just now, santheman said:

I think that myself more so after watching the latest video from our Chairman.

Really good Interview from the chairman. Don't think there is much more we could have done. Ahmet happy to stay so see what happens there

[santheman]

1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

Really good Interview from the chairman. Don't think there is much more we could have done. Ahmet happy to stay so see what happens there

Yeah quite impressed by it (media dept obviously looks in here🤔).

Would love him to stay but have a feeling that he'll join Wimmer back in Germany at some point.

[Kmcalpin]

26 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Really good Interview from the chairman. Don't think there is much more we could have done. Ahmet happy to stay so see what happens there

Yes, it was. It answered many, if not all, of our questions.

It seems we're looking for much the same qualites in a manager as we did before which is encourging. The issue of family ties was discussed with MW as part of due diligence, but clearly that changed and there wasn't much we could do about that. 

Comforting to know that the club is ticking over nicely before the window opens on 12 June and pre season preparations are being made. That will ease a few concerns.

[Onthefringes]

Perhaps some can stop the knicker wetting and invest in pampers now.

[wellfan]

I see the superiority complex and cryptic style of some continue to be boundless.

[El Grew]

5 hours ago, mfc said:

I wouldn't be surprised when wimmer left that part of the agreement was that ahmet would stay on to oversee any day to day stuff until we appoint a new manager and he would then join wimmer.hopefully the club has someone in mind and can get a deal done soon and we don't waste our time holding interviews with the likes of naismith and docherty.

I think you’re spot on MFC.
It would certainly make sense for him to stay until the club selects a new manager.

[Onthefringes]

6 minutes ago, wellfan said:

I see the superiority complex and cryptic style of some continue to be boundless.

No superiority complex, nor cryptic style. Just a loathing of some who think their £5 monthly sub correlates with knowing every decision or move the club makes.