Happy Dosser Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM 45 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: I feel dirty typing this, but seems that Rangers fans have actually been fairly well-behaved at Fir Park. The stairways mostly clear, no reported damage, no pitch invasions (since the play-off). I'd be in favour of giving Celtic the upper tier only and bill them for loss of revenue from the empty seats. We'll stop billing them and open the lower tier when their fans learn how to behave themselves. That's my impression as well. We all know the behaviour of some Rangers fans has been unsavoury and menacing in the past, like the infamous riot at FP in 1978 because they were 2-0 down and looking at a hiding, and many other violent incidents over the years, including in Manchester after the UEFA Final in 2008. That said, the behaviour of a section of Celtic fans seems to have deteriorated the more they have dominated the Scottish game in the last 15 years and the growth of the Green Brigade is a toxic phenomenon which shows an arrogant sense of entitlement and sense of impunity which we can see transfers to the club itself with its recent desperate attempts to justify/deny the indefensible after last Wednesday and Saturday. Unfortunately, we're stuck with them both because to admit them to the English Premiership would be suicidal for it, even if it were possible. Until there is a real will shown by the police, SG and Scottish football authorities to restore order, fairness and sporting integrity to our game, nothing will change. I wonder also how many of our "new" supporters will have been put off by these recent events, despite the best efforts of our manager, players and club generally? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:13 PM 5 hours ago, Throughthelaces said: Can we not write the club or start a petition to only allocate them the top tier due to safety concerns you know we are a family club after all. Or so they like to say. Take out the bottom ten rows or something, cover them in they advertising banners you see elsewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Just give them the minimum allowed, with them being seated in a newly created seating area with limited views outside the stadium and all at a premium price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:45 PM 1. Punt Rangers to League 2 in the EFL 2. Punt Celtic to the lowest division in the League of Ireland 3. Profit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throughthelaces Posted Wednesday at 05:54 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:54 PM 5 hours ago, dennyc said: Given the trouble this season and last I would hope the Club Board are already considering this. No doubt the loss of income upwards of £65k per game is a factor. Hard to gauge how many of those home fans that avoid Old Firm games would be encouraged to turn up if away numbers were greatly reduced. Wouldn't be enough to offset the loss but then again money should not be the driver here. I wonder if anyone from the Society has expressed health and safety concerns re Celtic games to our Chief Executive? I don't think there is any rule dictating that a Club cannot pick and choose which visiting fans should be limited in number. Hearts and Hibs have limited away tickets for most teams in recent seasons but increased the allocation for matches between the two. So no reason why we could not restrict OF, or even just Celtic, but give others the full stand. When we play celtic the lower tier always appears to be overcrowded and folk running from stand to stands a risk too. If anything where to go wrong say a crushing incident or something its our clubs reputation thats at stake and as a club have the responsibility for any compensation if such an issue was to arrise. Id argue its silly not to impliment something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted Wednesday at 06:22 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:22 PM Keep them in the top tier only. And if anyone asks tell them exactly why. You can't invaded the park from up there. Someone needs to make a stand. It certainly won't be Scottish football authorities . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Take out the bottom ten rows or something, cover them in they advertising banners you see elsewhere Im all for this. Its what they do at Parkhead for European games.... We built that stand to milk Celtic & Rangers for revenue. It would be crazy to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, we do need to do something, so the above seems a reasonable and manageable compromise. Would also allow the stewards to focus in the gates without worrying about anyone coming over the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted Wednesday at 07:00 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:00 PM 1 hour ago, Orinoco said: Just give them the minimum allowed, with them being seated in a newly created seating area with limited views outside the stadium and all at a premium price. You missed out the rottweilers roaming about amongst them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted Wednesday at 07:01 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:01 PM 1 hour ago, weeyin said: 1. Punt Rangers to League 2 in the EFL 2. Punt Celtic to the lowest division in the League of Ireland 3. Profit! What have you got against the English and the Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted Wednesday at 07:34 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:34 PM 2 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Take out the bottom ten rows or something, cover them in they advertising banners you see elsewhere They would rip them to shreds and and then still charge onto the pitch. if in that bottom tier, there is no way to stop them. Short of risking injury to stewards and police. Any 'soft' attempt to deter them would just be seen as a challenge. Let's see how many of those that invaded the pitch and caused the game to be stopped early are identified by Celtic and banned from all grounds in Scotland. Not a one is my guess. Celtic themselves are a huge part of the problem. They have ceded all power to their toxic fans. And the decent ones are too scared to speak out. Good to see Hearts are not backing down and setting the record straight regards the early stoppage and the fact players were assaulted. The SFA silence is even more deafening than it was after Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted Wednesday at 07:43 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:43 PM 6 minutes ago, dennyc said: They would rip them to shreds and and then still charge onto the pitch. if in that bottom tier, there is no way to stop them. Short of risking injury to stewards and police. Any 'soft' attempt to deter them would just be seen as a challenge. Let's see how many of those that invaded the pitch and caused the game to be stopped early are identified by Celtic and banned from all grounds in Scotland. Not a one is my guess. Celtic themselves are a huge part of the problem. They have ceded all power to their toxic fans. And the decent ones are too scared to speak out. Good to see Hearts are not backing down and setting the record straight regards the early stoppage and the fact players were assaulted. The SFA silence is even more deafening than it was after Ibrox. Happy to ban the green brigade from their own ground , but also happy to sell them tickets for away matches. A truly horrible club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 28 minutes ago Report Share Posted 28 minutes ago 'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro Any guesses where this is headed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 15 minutes ago Report Share Posted 15 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: 'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro Any guesses where this is headed? A stern talking to, 20 quid fine suspended for 2 minutes, some hand waving to distract from that VAR decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted 15 minutes ago Report Share Posted 15 minutes ago Fine for Motherwell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 12 minutes ago Report Share Posted 12 minutes ago 1 minute ago, steelman1991 said: Fine for Motherwell. Delayed traumatic reaction to the Pyros. A deserved fine for Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 8 minutes ago Report Share Posted 8 minutes ago Whatever happens there will be minimal if any serious repercussions for Celtic even though their supporters were 100% responsible for both incidents. You can guarantee that had any of our fans retaliated by also invading the park at the Celtic game then we would be being painted as the aggressors while Celtic’s fans were simply jubilant in celebration, the same as what happened with the Cup tie at Ibrox where Celtic fans invaded the park. Celtic have too many people in high places for anything major to befall their way in terms of suitable punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted 5 minutes ago Report Share Posted 5 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: 'Disciplinary investigations have been launched into Motherwell v Celtic and Celtic v Hearts in the Scottish Premiership as well as two end-of-season lower league play-off fixtures, the SPFL has announced' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70vk78271ro Any guesses where this is headed? The SPFL growing a pair of balls and taking action re pitch invasions and assaults on players? Probably not. Lumping all four together will minimise the more serious incidents and enable the Authorities to class them all as celebratory rather than violent and intimidatory. "We had a look but nothing to see here." I expect Hamilton and Stenny to be fined and Celtic to be commended for the enthusiasm and good nature of their fans. I suspect the incidents attracting the interest of our politicians has spurred our masters to 'appear' to be taking matters seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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